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#2062 2008-11-11 04:25 GMT |
Recent events have led me to the conclusion that the MYSHOTS programmers should implement a system whereby members uploads are restricted to no more than 3 uploads per 24 hours.
I arrived at this conclusion because of the excessive number of uploads from one individual recently.
It has happened before but never to this extent and I have become very concerned about it for various reasons.
1.When something like this happens I believe our members are put off when they look at the pages on the gallery and see multiples of similar looking low quality images from one person who has decided to empty their memory card onto MYSHOTS.
I come to this conclsion because I have noticed over the past week or so that members log in and log out very quickly ,they are not hanging around any more.
2.I fear that anyone coming in to upload one or two photos might back off because they realise that their pics are going to get buried under an avalance of such images.
3.If these extreme uploads are allowed to continue then people could end up using the site for free online image storage.
I would be interested to know what the MYSHOTS community feels about this and whether anyone else shares my concern over this issue.
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#2064 2008-11-11 16:03 GMT |
Les, I am one hundred percent behind your suggestion of limiting uploads on MYSHOTS to maybe four or five pictures per 24 hours. It is reasonable and should not offend anyone. The fact is that we are supposed to be uploading only the shots that we consider very good and want others to see.
You are right that someone using MYSHOTS as a personal playroom and uploading a full memory card at once is uncalled for and could eventually snuff out participation by the very people that we want to have use MYSHOTS and have their great pictures in the system.
I would think that it would not be difficult for subscribers to follow this new rule, if the admin people go for it [which they should], and it would bring some sensibility to the web site knowing that those who want to upload more than four or five will be blocked and asked to upload the remainder the following day.
Put me down as agreeing with you. Thanks.
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#2065 2008-11-11 16:10 GMT |
hi davles
i think that limiting uploading or any action done by the moderators will make the photographers go away although you have a legitimate reason.
on the internet no matter how you try not to you can easily offend someone
or he/she might think so
other moderators tried to do it and made some kind of test to prove yourself by uploading 5 photos and getting the moderator approval so u can upload
i felt like going back to school 
many people stopped uploading
and i am now only a member
and i do not know if i am welcomed here
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#2067 2008-11-11 16:37 GMT |
If I might ask Aseem, how would you stop an individual from uploading his whole memory card, check the gallery right now for instance, and trying to get only quality shots on uploads for the most part? I would be most anxious to hear what your idea would be.
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#2068 2008-11-11 16:38 GMT |
Les,
I agree 100% and I am put off by it. I saw the barage of photos recently uploaded and the poor quality of the photos and thought the site was becoming more of a flicker type site. This suprised me since I had to upload 3 photos to be considered for membership, I assumed it was to verify a certain level of ability. I'm also concerned about the low member and visitor participation, but I believe that anyone serious about photography would be turned off by many of the photos being posted, the site would be thought of as just another ho hum photo storage area.
I hope the site administrator considers our comments and starts to take things as serious as many of us do.
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#2069 2008-11-12 02:35 GMT |
Azeem,I don't know why your account was downgraded or when,I have never heard of this hapening before. I have always wondered why you stopped uploading. As far as I am concerned you are very welcome here and I sure our other members feel the same way.I will try to see if this baffling decision can be reversed,it seems possible that a mistake was made somewhere along the line.
Les.
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#2070 2008-11-12 03:52 GMT |
I agree one hundred % with the people wanting to limit individuals uploading.
I have in the past been frustrated by persons uploading many pics in one hit.
And for the anonymous poster, I do not entirely agree with your comments.
This site IMHO is far from a flicker type site. People for the most part are generally trying to compose a good image with whatever gear they have. I am sure that it was never the intention of the site to be elitist. There was, some time ago, someone deleting photos that didn't meet the MyShots standard. I am unsure if that is still being done!
Azeem maybe you have been sacrificed to the photography gods (refer to myshots->forum->hello all)
My 2 cents worth for what its worth
Cheers
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#2072 2008-11-12 15:41 GMT |
To All,
I was logged on when I responded to this posting, I don't know why my name left out, maybe I did something wrong. As for my comment about MyShots becoming a flicker site, that was a reference to uploading 30+ photos at one time ONLY. I still believe that when someone visits any web site like MyShots (and there are many)and sees the pages dominated by one photographer and the questionable quality of the photos, they will move on to other sites.
With Respect
Leahcim
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#2073 2008-11-12 17:58 GMT |
I too am concerned with the gallery being flooded out by one person, I don't so much mind when someone puts up several images at a time if they are actually of different things as opposed to a bunch of shots of the same thing.
I don't think hard limits are such a good idea, but perhaps a delay before showing images if they are uploaded in a large group. This would have the effect of interspacing the images with other peoples work. Though really most of the people here seem to self limit anyway.
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#2074 2008-11-13 03:33 GMT |
Sorry Leahcim I have taken you out of context
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#2075 2008-11-13 04:45 GMT |
hello all
i sujjested a long time ago to let the members of my shots decide by voting what shots should stay and what shots should not a sort of democracy we all like and apreciate so i am sujjesting it again and there is another way of flooding the site with bad quality photos by using many names and accounts so i would try the democracy thing and talking to the uploader and explainig the problem for him
this is my idea for the anxious mikey416 and for other members and administrators
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#2076 2008-11-13 08:00 GMT |
Azeem, what MYSHOTS needs is some suggestions as to how to improve the web site and I think that with this forum we are at the beginning of doing just that. As for your comment re: me being anxious, you can say that if you wish but all I am asking for in the future are better shots uploaded by members and subscribers and a limit each day on how many a person can upload. It would also be nice if the admin of this site would be more involved and aware with what certain uploaders are doing. With respect, thanks.
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#2077 2008-11-13 14:27 GMT |
Azeem , voting system would be counter productive because if people get their stuff voted off they would just go elsewhere.This site is a photo sharing site not an open ended competition.
If arbitrary uploads are introduced the quality of images should improve, because hopefully people would be choose their best stuff,in other words quality not quantity.
When people are exposed to higher quality images then they are better able to see their own shortcomings and their photography should improve as a result,if that is their goal.
Also Azeem your account as photographer has now been re-instated after I made enquries.It was a bit of a mystery but an unknown error had been made somewhere along the line.
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#2078 2008-11-13 16:59 GMT |
thanks davles
your eagerness to help me is really appreciated
now what i only need is a camera
i got noise ninja today it is a must for good photos
and since amazon does not deliver to my country
i asked a relative to bring it to me from USA
hopefully he will not be busy a lot so he can order it
thanks again
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#2080 2008-11-14 14:26 GMT |
In the past their have been many comments on photos being downloaded, but not being commented upon, this is a two edged sword which surely means that we can express our delight at a photo or be critical and offer advice.
In the cases of excessive uploads, could we not comment that one photo has some merit but that the remainder were so simular that they detracted from the orignal download, this may make the person think twice in the future without any dictate from the powers that be.
Unfortunately everyone that takes a photo considers it to be good!! even when to the professional eye it is well below standard.
Just a thought.
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#2081 2008-11-14 17:30 GMT |
Ray, I wish commenting on pictures of lesser quality and excessive uploading to that person would be simple and taken well. Unfortunately, from experience, that is not the case for the most part. Good idea however.
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#2082 2008-11-14 18:31 GMT |
Limiting uploads to three a day may seem a bit restrictive to some but it still allows 21 uploads per week.That surely is more than enough for anyone.There is one site in the UK that only allows one upload per day! The stated reason is that with no restrictions in place, someone could upload an image which quickly ends up on the second or third page without it even being seen and this does happen here.Have you ever noticed how your hit rate decreases rapidly once your picture moves off page one?go check it out.
So I think the limits I am advocating are generous by comparison,and in IMHO is a fairer way of doing things than the present system.
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#2084 2008-11-15 20:02 GMT |
Les.... I think you are spot on with three uploads per day. I am one who has not looked at the site as regularly as in the past due to the flood of "well below par" photos loaded on mass by one member. And you are quite correct in saying a new upload can be relegated to page 2 by mass uploads.
So you have my support for 3 per day.
I am a great fan of downloading to see the bigger picture and then tend to look at "other photo's by photographer" which allows me to comment on pictures posted in the past..... helps me get a feel for the members interest.
Having said that.... this member in question has not posted any shot worthy of comment, nor any shot with any form of photogrphic correctness or clarity. I could pose the question "How did he get on Myshots in the first place?", but I won't.
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#2085 2008-11-15 20:02 GMT |
Hi all. I have kept out of this debate until now but like many others I am now tired of entering the site day after day only to find multiple shots, of poor quality (in my HO) by the one member.
I joined this site as an amateur photographer hoping to get some genuine feedback regarding the quality of the shots I post. This of course with a view to learning how to improve.
However, with the plethora of comments whizzing around regarding this individuals drowning us in mediocre images, the real point of this site seems to be diminishing.
So I am in full agreement with those suggesting a limit to the number of daily uploads permitted. Maybe then we can all get back to our previous enjoyment of MYSHOTS. I believe three shots per day to be more than generous.
Cats are intended to teach us that not everything in nature has a purpose. - Garrison Keillor |
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#2086 2008-11-15 20:45 GMT |
Hi Les.... not to hogg the forum, but read the posted profile of the member in question.... it appears he has had differences of opinion with other moderators and/or administrators. Hmmmmmm.
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#2089 2008-11-17 08:14 GMT |
Hi all. My poor old brain is spinning right now after having read the posts so far. davles and I have spoken at length on this subject so he knows how I feel, but I still want to put in my twopeneth.
Three shots a day is way to much, I try to limit my imput to one or two a week. This gives others a chance to be on the first page, what is the point of hogging it? As davles knows I have a bank of hundreds of acceptable photos which are shown around many camera clubs, but I would have to be very egotistical to upload them onto a sharing site.
I also limit myself to only using recent work, for example, the shot I uploaded last week "Bonfire and skulls" I had actually made that day, so apart from being fresh to others it is also fresh to davles who sees most of my work at first hand.
One a day is plenty, photographers may then think twice about what they are asking us to look at.
As for those who want to impress their friends, and no doubt massage their own egos with how many shots they can put onto the internet I have three little words for you. "Get a site"
I used to be proud to tell friends that I have photos on MySots, now I'm not so sure.
Respect to you all, Roy.
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#2090 2008-11-17 15:40 GMT |
Roy, I appreciate the fact that you have made your comments known about this excessive uploading problem. Your thoughts, as well as all of the other comments, are needed to affect possible change. I hope for some changes in the future and I think we are on our way to that end. Regards, Mike/Canada
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#2092 2008-11-18 16:42 GMT |
Hi guys.... this forum seems to be taking shape with sound ideas coming in. I like Les's idea of 3 uplaods every 24 hours... I also like Manroy's sugestion of one good shot a week, although the concern of many views with no comments could create a situation where members look elsewhere to have their pictures commented on... if they have to wait a week before uploading their next picture, especially if their current picture receives no comments. It could be seen as a futile exercise.
So, what about 3 uploads a week? Or maybe 4? Just another suggestion into the pot.
Incidently, the Admninstrators have banned the "obsessive uploader" who caused this forum in the first place, but I still believe we must move forward on this to prevent a re-occurance in the future.
The more comments and ideas we post, the more the administrators have to work with......... so what will make you happy?
Regards
Grayham
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#2093 2008-11-19 03:50 GMT |
Just to make it clear the ban on the excessive uploader was imposed because he made abusive and inflammatory comments about another members photography.He was the architect of his own demise.
Les.
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#2094 2008-11-19 07:00 GMT |
Les, it is strange that it wasn't about his excessive uploading or his more than ordinary photos but about his attitude and idiotic comments. Great to be without him on MYSHOTS is all I can say and it is mission accomplished. Thanks. Mike
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#2096 2008-11-24 18:06 GMT |
Thank you for all the suggestions, it us up- and downsides as we know. We are making some great changes on myshots as we speak, so this may not be a problem anymore in the near future. I will keep you guys updated.
Thank you
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#2097 2008-11-24 18:32 GMT |
Thank you Kojak for letting us all know that changes are on the way,it's great to see that some of issues that are being raised are being taken seriously.
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#2101 2008-11-27 18:22 GMT |
Thanks Kojak.... good news
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#2102 2008-11-28 07:54 GMT |
I am definitely looking forward to some changes soon.
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#2106 2008-12-01 19:53 GMT |
It was interesting reading everyone's comments and concerns in this area. I have uploaded several photographs lately. I always enjoy the comments of those who view my photographs. I am concerned, however, that the number of members who view and commment on my photographs seem to be decreasing. Are others experiencing the same decline in views and downloads? I wonder if this might be the result of the site simply getting too big. There are beautiful, and I would say mostly very high quality, photographs on the site. I often find that I am overwhelmed by the number of photographs when I go online to view and perhaps comment on my favorite photographs. I am not sure what the solution might be, but perhaps a limit in the number of uploads would be a good start. I, too, am looking forward to the changes.
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